Perimeter Books from Melbourne and Temporary Press from Singapore are separated by continents, yet connected by multiple commonalities — they are both independent publishers run by husband-and-wife duos, who recognise publishing as extensions of their creative practices. Dan Rule, Justine Ellis, Gideon Kong and Jamie Yeo meet for the first time to exchange notes on collaborations with artists in bookmaking, sustainability in operating physical bookstores and studios, and how they find balance in the confluence of creativity, business and life while growing a family as life partners.